as bill clinton, all they're suggesting now when asked about this and he's the best, he made the comment, he said, what they're proposing is bush economic policies on steroids. that's what this is. >> on the flip side, ben, you have the mitt romney secretly taped comments, the 47%, what does he do? what does he need to do to overcome this perception, he's this rich guy out to help the rich? >> first of all, we had lots of very rich presidents who have been helpful. fdr was one of the richest men in the country. his family ate off gold plates. john f. kennedy was one of the very richest people in america. he was a very fine president. the fact that lbj was fantastically rich, a fine president. the fact that they're rich doesn't mean they're bad presidents. not in the slightest. i think mr. romney has to do is go to some kind of chart or something out of his head where he says, we're going to do x, that will give us 700,000 to 900,000 jobs. we're going to do y, that will give us 1.2 million jobs and he's got to run through this and explain why and exactly it is different, a, from what mr.